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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Cry and Chupa, Argentina! (Again)</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://brazil.theoffside.com/tournaments/dont-cry-for-me-argentina-and-chupa-again.html#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I see what you´re saying. And I totally agree w u. But I´d give Dinho another chance at the NT. After all, he did grow in 02 against England with that amazing goal and he finished Argentina in Confederation 05. I just hope I can see him in yellow again.

That being said, I just wanna say that I´m really really happy with the side-backs we have or could have right now. I´m talking about Cicinho and Gilberto.
I think that in todays football this position is key to winning or loosing games. I was worried that when R. Carlos and Cafu got old (as they clearly did), Brazil would have a set back with the replacements, but this hasn´t happened.
I´ve seen the France game over and over and I think it was a totally different game the last 15 min when Cicinho got in. I wonder what would´ve happened if got in the 2nd have instead. In fact I thought then and still think it would have been a totally different WC if Parreira had started with the team u and I are talking about. I mean, our &quot;ideal&quot; team was almost the same team that played Japan. And this was the only display of good brazilian football I saw in all the WC. It was also almost the same team that won Confederation 05.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I see what you´re saying. And I totally agree w u. But I´d give Dinho another chance at the NT. After all, he did grow in 02 against England with that amazing goal and he finished Argentina in Confederation 05. I just hope I can see him in yellow again.</p>
<p>That being said, I just wanna say that I´m really really happy with the side-backs we have or could have right now. I´m talking about Cicinho and Gilberto.<br />
I think that in todays football this position is key to winning or loosing games. I was worried that when R. Carlos and Cafu got old (as they clearly did), Brazil would have a set back with the replacements, but this hasn´t happened.<br />
I´ve seen the France game over and over and I think it was a totally different game the last 15 min when Cicinho got in. I wonder what would´ve happened if got in the 2nd have instead. In fact I thought then and still think it would have been a totally different WC if Parreira had started with the team u and I are talking about. I mean, our &#8220;ideal&#8221; team was almost the same team that played Japan. And this was the only display of good brazilian football I saw in all the WC. It was also almost the same team that won Confederation 05.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Romani</title>
		<link>http://brazil.theoffside.com/tournaments/dont-cry-for-me-argentina-and-chupa-again.html#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Romani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok sam, so let&#039;s do it like Jack, The Ripper and go by parts. 

i know ze roberto quited the team, but this is a ideal situation, no? =) 

anyway, my choice for him is based on how he was playing at santos. More advanced on the pitch, almost as a classic playmaker. with that he could work on the left portion with the field with gilberto, setting Kaka-free on the right side. Also, with him, there could be a variation of Kaka playing without any worries of defending, but still having someone with a good pass and technique. Also with Mineiro, Josue and Ze Roberto, the two side-backs could have lots of freedom to help the forwards, instead of playing like defenders. Cicinho at Sao Paulo and Gilberto at Gremio played like this. I believe that with Josue and Mineiro, Cicinho would grow a lot again, given they were used to play together. 

Now, the argument to justify ronaldo in and ronaldinho out is the same. I believe in players that grow in important moments and players that disappear in such important moments. Ronaldo is the man who grows, no matter how he is. If he is in shape he is as good, or better, than Adriano, Ricardo Oliveira, Fred, Luis Fabiano (players that I think could be with the NT). Even in the mediocre match against France, who was the only one trying to shoot?

Ronaldinho, on the other hand, disappears. the guy is amazing. With Barcelona. I don&#039;t think he is reliable and he puts too much pressure on himself to be the best. That screws his game. 

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On a different note, with Felipao, we could have the team playing on 3-5-2, just like in 2002. 

then, you could have a third defender playing with lucio and juan (naldo, alex...), have gilberto and cicinho way advanced with josue and mineiro in the middle. 

ronaldinho or kaka as the playmaker (like rivaldo in 02), and robinho and ronaldo. (yes i think we need a real number 9). I can&#039;t see the offensive trio with kaka, ronaldinho and robinho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok sam, so let&#8217;s do it like Jack, The Ripper and go by parts. </p>
<p>i know ze roberto quited the team, but this is a ideal situation, no? =) </p>
<p>anyway, my choice for him is based on how he was playing at santos. More advanced on the pitch, almost as a classic playmaker. with that he could work on the left portion with the field with gilberto, setting Kaka-free on the right side. Also, with him, there could be a variation of Kaka playing without any worries of defending, but still having someone with a good pass and technique. Also with Mineiro, Josue and Ze Roberto, the two side-backs could have lots of freedom to help the forwards, instead of playing like defenders. Cicinho at Sao Paulo and Gilberto at Gremio played like this. I believe that with Josue and Mineiro, Cicinho would grow a lot again, given they were used to play together. </p>
<p>Now, the argument to justify ronaldo in and ronaldinho out is the same. I believe in players that grow in important moments and players that disappear in such important moments. Ronaldo is the man who grows, no matter how he is. If he is in shape he is as good, or better, than Adriano, Ricardo Oliveira, Fred, Luis Fabiano (players that I think could be with the NT). Even in the mediocre match against France, who was the only one trying to shoot?</p>
<p>Ronaldinho, on the other hand, disappears. the guy is amazing. With Barcelona. I don&#8217;t think he is reliable and he puts too much pressure on himself to be the best. That screws his game. </p>
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<p>On a different note, with Felipao, we could have the team playing on 3-5-2, just like in 2002. </p>
<p>then, you could have a third defender playing with lucio and juan (naldo, alex&#8230;), have gilberto and cicinho way advanced with josue and mineiro in the middle. </p>
<p>ronaldinho or kaka as the playmaker (like rivaldo in 02), and robinho and ronaldo. (yes i think we need a real number 9). I can&#8217;t see the offensive trio with kaka, ronaldinho and robinho.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bruno. It´s good to know that I have a similar ideal team to the one a person who knows a lot about Brazilian football like you would choose.

Even though I think Ronaldo is one of the best strikers ever, I wouldn´t choose him cause I think his time has passed. That´s one of the reasons I think the WC2006 team failed. A lot of old players like R. Carlos, Emerson, and specialy CAFU. And even though I don´t think Ronaldo is in this guilty group, I would not choose him in the new team. Not that I like Adriano a lot eather.
I think we need a new young striker. A hungry one (like u said). Not Vagner Love please!!! By the way, how is Nilmar doing this days????

The other thing that called my atention was that u placed 3 defensive midfielders (Josue, Mineiro and Ze Roberto who by the way quited the Brazil team) and only one Offensive one to pass the balls (Kaka). Wouldn´t this make the team too defensive??

Last but not least the Ronaldinho issue.
I totaly respect your opinion that his not doing well in the N.T. I don´t think he did a good job in WC2006. But...
Don´t you think he did a great job in WC2002 and Confederation Cup 2005? That was only 2 years ago.

I think he is right now the best and most capable player in the world. Maybe what they need to do is adjust the team to his lead. Like in Barcelona. My opinion anyway.

By the way I would also love Felipao back.
Those were the days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bruno. It´s good to know that I have a similar ideal team to the one a person who knows a lot about Brazilian football like you would choose.</p>
<p>Even though I think Ronaldo is one of the best strikers ever, I wouldn´t choose him cause I think his time has passed. That´s one of the reasons I think the WC2006 team failed. A lot of old players like R. Carlos, Emerson, and specialy CAFU. And even though I don´t think Ronaldo is in this guilty group, I would not choose him in the new team. Not that I like Adriano a lot eather.<br />
I think we need a new young striker. A hungry one (like u said). Not Vagner Love please!!! By the way, how is Nilmar doing this days????</p>
<p>The other thing that called my atention was that u placed 3 defensive midfielders (Josue, Mineiro and Ze Roberto who by the way quited the Brazil team) and only one Offensive one to pass the balls (Kaka). Wouldn´t this make the team too defensive??</p>
<p>Last but not least the Ronaldinho issue.<br />
I totaly respect your opinion that his not doing well in the N.T. I don´t think he did a good job in WC2006. But&#8230;<br />
Don´t you think he did a great job in WC2002 and Confederation Cup 2005? That was only 2 years ago.</p>
<p>I think he is right now the best and most capable player in the world. Maybe what they need to do is adjust the team to his lead. Like in Barcelona. My opinion anyway.</p>
<p>By the way I would also love Felipao back.<br />
Those were the days.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Romani</title>
		<link>http://brazil.theoffside.com/tournaments/dont-cry-for-me-argentina-and-chupa-again.html#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Romani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coach: Felipao</description>
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		<title>By: Bruno Romani</title>
		<link>http://brazil.theoffside.com/tournaments/dont-cry-for-me-argentina-and-chupa-again.html#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Romani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam...
my ideal team is very similar to yours...

Rogerio Ceni

Cicinho 
Lucio
Juan 
Gilberto

Mineiro
Josue 
Ze Roberto
Kaka

Ronaldo (yes)
Robinho

where&#039;s ronaldinho? on the bench, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam&#8230;<br />
my ideal team is very similar to yours&#8230;</p>
<p>Rogerio Ceni</p>
<p>Cicinho<br />
Lucio<br />
Juan<br />
Gilberto</p>
<p>Mineiro<br />
Josue<br />
Ze Roberto<br />
Kaka</p>
<p>Ronaldo (yes)<br />
Robinho</p>
<p>where&#8217;s ronaldinho? on the bench, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I wanna say Im eternally gratefull to the Brazilian &quot;B&quot; team for that PERFECT final game and the victory. But still one has to dream.

My Ideal Brazilian &quot;A&quot; Team.

Forward: Robinho, Adriano (not that good lately but better than Wagner Love)
Offensive Mid: Ronaldinho, Kaka (come on, give the guys a brake, they are in fact the 2 best players in the world)
Def Mid: Josue, Mineiro (did u see that final?????)
Sides: Gilberto (I just love him), Cicinho (I know Daniel Alves is great, but have u seen Cicinho play?)
Def: Juan (Undisputable and in my opinion Captain), Lucio
GK: Dida (one of the very few that had a decent WC 2006)

Please post your thoughts about it and give your Ideal Brazil team.

&quot;England invented football, Brazil showed how it should be played&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I wanna say Im eternally gratefull to the Brazilian &#8220;B&#8221; team for that PERFECT final game and the victory. But still one has to dream.</p>
<p>My Ideal Brazilian &#8220;A&#8221; Team.</p>
<p>Forward: Robinho, Adriano (not that good lately but better than Wagner Love)<br />
Offensive Mid: Ronaldinho, Kaka (come on, give the guys a brake, they are in fact the 2 best players in the world)<br />
Def Mid: Josue, Mineiro (did u see that final?????)<br />
Sides: Gilberto (I just love him), Cicinho (I know Daniel Alves is great, but have u seen Cicinho play?)<br />
Def: Juan (Undisputable and in my opinion Captain), Lucio<br />
GK: Dida (one of the very few that had a decent WC 2006)</p>
<p>Please post your thoughts about it and give your Ideal Brazil team.</p>
<p>&#8220;England invented football, Brazil showed how it should be played&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are a little too harsh on our team Bruno..
this team is more disceplined than the team of wc 2006..
i swear i&#039;d take this team over the one parriera took to the wc. and dunga as the coach.. 
that&#039;s what i wanted to say..
good job on saying your article otherwise..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are a little too harsh on our team Bruno..<br />
this team is more disceplined than the team of wc 2006..<br />
i swear i&#8217;d take this team over the one parriera took to the wc. and dunga as the coach..<br />
that&#8217;s what i wanted to say..<br />
good job on saying your article otherwise..</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Brazilian Victory!  Despite not playing brilliant soccer, it showed heart and will to win. Doni was great. All the defensive system played awsomely. Mineiro and Josué did wonderful protecting and antecipatory moves. The transition worked. Julio Batista scored a great goal. Daniel Alves another great one. 
To put it simply : Brazil applied defensive pressure and did great on the counter-attacks. 
The Argentineans play great soccer when they have some space - and Brazil didn´t allowed any. 
Sorry for them. Great for us (Yes, I´m Brazilian). 
They´re still great players (Boca Juniors is one of the greatest teams around) yet Brazil had the better team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Brazilian Victory!  Despite not playing brilliant soccer, it showed heart and will to win. Doni was great. All the defensive system played awsomely. Mineiro and Josué did wonderful protecting and antecipatory moves. The transition worked. Julio Batista scored a great goal. Daniel Alves another great one.<br />
To put it simply : Brazil applied defensive pressure and did great on the counter-attacks.<br />
The Argentineans play great soccer when they have some space &#8211; and Brazil didn´t allowed any.<br />
Sorry for them. Great for us (Yes, I´m Brazilian).<br />
They´re still great players (Boca Juniors is one of the greatest teams around) yet Brazil had the better team.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bruno,
I’m Alex, admin of sportsnet.cc. We are making site about p2p technology and also we have
News section. I want to invite you to become a member of our team. We need person who
will post news about Brazilian football and who has knowledge about it. I like what
you’re doing on The Offside and would be happy if you will post the same news on our site.

If it’s possible, please contact me
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Best Regards,
Alex

P.S. Please answer, at least say &quot;no&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bruno,<br />
I’m Alex, admin of sportsnet.cc. We are making site about p2p technology and also we have<br />
News section. I want to invite you to become a member of our team. We need person who<br />
will post news about Brazilian football and who has knowledge about it. I like what<br />
you’re doing on The Offside and would be happy if you will post the same news on our site.</p>
<p>If it’s possible, please contact me<br />
MSN: <a href="mailto:alex@sportsnet.cc">alex@sportsnet.cc</a>, ICQ: 165092692, e-mail: <a href="mailto:alex@sportsnet.cc">alex@sportsnet.cc</a></p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Alex</p>
<p>P.S. Please answer, at least say &#8220;no&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulation!!!! Brazil. Salute to the players who played with their heart in that final. Shame on U-20 team and those players who are complaining tired after long season. Hope Dunga don&#039;t be cocky cause still long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulation!!!! Brazil. Salute to the players who played with their heart in that final. Shame on U-20 team and those players who are complaining tired after long season. Hope Dunga don&#8217;t be cocky cause still long way to go.</p>
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